Sunday, June 20, 2010

* The Dino to Bird Cladogram

Here is the standard dino-to-bird diagram.
Notice the distinct difference between the maniraptors (on the right) and the dinosaurs (on the left). The maniraptors are primitive birds and do not belong with the dinosaurs.

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4 comments:

  1. How does this cladogram support that? It shows maniraptora as a sub-group of coelurosauria, which is in turn a subgroup of avetheropoda.So in order for your theory to be true, dinosauria would be paraphyletic. I just don't see how this cladogram supports that, especially because it doesn't even include pterosauria. Also, this cladogram doesn't even show the matrix used. As far as I can tell, your theory is only based on analogous traits (wings), and traits that may the ancestral traits of all ornithodirans (feather-like structures), while the dinosaur to bird hypothesis is supported by a massive amount of data.

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  2. This cladogram is quite wrong. But I have to begin somewhere.
    You have said that "as far as you can tell the theory I am presenting is only based on analogous traits (wings), and traits that may the ancestral traits of all ornithodirans (feather-like structures)". It would seem you have not read the dozens and dozens of posts that outline the case.

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  3. Yes I have read them, and nothing I have read seems to be based on hard evidence. Quoting yourself doesn't help your case.

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  4. Find some specific thing you object to in the posts and we can talk. General comments are not of much value.

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